How do you take your GT from 13's to 12's.....

[HeloPilot]

Buy a MACH 1!!!!!

If all goes as planned, by the end of next week I should be sporting a new Azure Blue Mach 1 (and Brad will no longer be BlownMerc). I'm taking a big hit on what I owe on the GT, but I figure, what the heck...take it now or take it later.

After tax/tag/title and being upside down $5k, I'll get the Mach for $27,569.

Rich

[Luke01GT]

Nice choice Rich! :bowdown: to the mach 1. I love the rims on those babies. And Brad I've said it before but if the car gods were here now they'd do this :cheers: Sounds cool guys keep us updated

[HeloPilot]

And for any new guys, non-Mustang enthusiasts, Mach 1 doubters...
info. below....

http://www.mustangworld.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=122899


Rich, I'm gunning for you!!! I will be the ultimate Rich!!!!!
(kinda sounds like I'm talking to myself)

Rich

[HeloPilot]

And for those that don't want to click the link....

"It is not basically an 01 Cobra motor. The whole thing has been redesigned. It has 03 heads, Lincoln navigator exhaust cams, more aggressive computer and a 10.1:1 compression ratio. Newly designed exhaust manifolds, etc.....

The suspension springs are more balanced and it comes with Tokico (SP?) shocks and struts from the factory. The shaker is functional and is said to produce 1 lbs of boost at 80 MPH but have not confirmed. The gearing is 3.55 in the rear and the stock T-3650 is geared perfect for the car.

The interior is upgraded and they come with the 13" Cobra brakes. A little more aggressive brake pad that is one the 03 Cobra as well.

They come with bolt in sub frame connectors that are a POS, but do work somewhat. Larger front and rear sway bars and a ton of torq. With all my 99 Cobra mods I made like 300 hp and 300 lb of Tq. Bone stock my Mach 1 dynoed 275.5 and 298.5, so the engine is much different. They also have really nice seats that hold you in and the bullet pedals to help with hell and toe if the driver knows how. "


Rich

[HORSEpower]

The Mach 1 is actually closer to an 03' Cobra Motor than an 01'. It just doesn't have the blower. When MM&FF/GM High Tech Perf tested a Camaro SS vs. the Mach 1 at the strip, the Mach 1 came out ahead. (That's a test on the same day at the same track with the same driver).

Kurt

[Ponyperformance6]

Hey man, at NMRA in bradenton, there were two Mach 1's in Factory stock with bassani exhaust, a chip, 4.30 gears and drag radials running 12.70s thats friggin flyin man.


So Brad will be buying your stang ????

[HORSEpower]

4.30 is a lot of gear.

Kurt

[toastychicken]

So that means the Cougar is on the market?

[Ponyperformance6]

4.10s are almost as good

[Anonymous]

Why don't u go all the way and get an 03 Cobra. U r only few grands away from it. Plus why not consider consider an SS/TA or a used Vett?
Thats a little bit more performace and extra power to the wheels.

[Ponyperformance6]

well the Mach 1 is new for one, more rare than the 03 Cobra and cheaper both in price and definately in insurance. Thats easy.

[Ed]

$5 says that MSB00 is Eddie.

[toastychicken]

hahaha

[shorgasm]

You think the Mach1 will be cheaper on Insurance than a Cobra....why would you say that?

They will be in the same tier.value will be all thatseperates them in premiums.Plus that Cobra will put a beatin on the Mach1.

O won't even get on the SS and Mach1 comment.... :blah:

[HeloPilot]

My insurance will increase by about $2 every six months.....

Rich

[Luke01GT]

Ed I thought that from the very beginning. I'd put 5 bucks in that pot. who else could know so little about mustangs and actually own one?

[4U 2 NV]

Mustangs must wieght alot less than Camaro than with the Mach 1 beating the SS because I have NEVER EVER EVER seen a Mach 1 put within even 25 HP at the RW's as a Fbody. Comparing highest stock dynoed stang to highest stoch dynoed camaro. I have the article handy of them back in 1999(not any 02 motors) running 12.89 with a BONE stock 99 Z28. and then recently running 12.96 with a bone stock 02 SS in the dead heat. and then go back and put down 321 RWHP bone stock. thats almost 50 more RWHP than that guy from the mustang site put down. so then how did the Mach I beat the camaro? just not enough MOTORVATION there!

Also, dont get me wrong the Mach I is probably the best( besides the 93 cobra's) looking mustang in the past 25 years. they sounds bad ass and are cheap to build up! who could ask for more?!!!! ME!!!

[shorgasm]

Well......Remember kurt says it's faster so you better leave it alone!!!!

Hell it might have a S/C sittin in the trunk or something like that... :rolleyes:

Compare modded to modded and stock to stock...N/A stang to a N/A ls-1.WE all know the outcome.

Hell Bill Plummer's 97 T/A only runs mild bolt-on's zero power adders and runs 12.20's.It's a friggin LT-1.

[HORSEpower]

I am quoting a source. The day of testing, they both ran a 13.2 with the Mach 1 running a snidge less than the SS. I am not saying one is faster than another, I am saying that an unbiased source tested both cars on a particular occasion and one car came out on top.

As far as the weight goes, Sebastian's fully loaded 00' GT tipped the scales at 3150 lbs. Eddie's fully loaded 00' TA weighed in at 3620. That's almost 500 lbs. That's a lot of weight advantage. I think I would prefer a Fox 5 chasis because of weight. Keep in mind that I bought my car 4 years ago, and a new stang was simply out of my price range. I think I will just weight until I can afford an 05' stang now.

Kurt

[4U 2 NV]

didnt know stangs were that light. how much did the late 80's early 90's fox bodies weight?

[Anonymous]

Stock LS1 weigh 3400LB thats only 250Lb difference than the GT which I don't think it weighs 3150 anyways. My Cobra weighs 3233LB on a very acurate scale. Now, I've never seen that TA but I bet u that it has after market wheels, exhaust, and suspension on it, which makes up for a lot of the weight. A stock f-body makes about 75hp to wheels more than a stock GT so I guess its ok to have a little bit more weight.

[HORSEpower]

Those mods don't add weight. When you put a new exhaust system on, you take an old one off.

Kurt

[Anonymous]

Oh yeah they do.......I've been reading the threads and I heard that Eddie's TA got some work done to it. Wheels that hold bigger tires are hevier simply coz they are bigger. Also the tires are bigger thus heavier........headers are heavier than manifold..........aftermarket suspension components are also hevier no question about that.
I also forgot to mention that TAs are a little heavier than the SS anyways coz of the ground effects and the big wing on the back, however, if u put any SS on a decent scale I can asure u that it wont be more than 3400lb and change. U can look at it from another side though..........if u take a stock GT and stock Z28/TA(not even an SS or WS6) the power difference is like I said about 75hp to the wheels. Compare that to the weight difference u'll find that much power well makes up for the difference weight.

[shorgasm]

Can I put my $5 in with you other guys.......... :blah:

[HORSEpower]

Anyone here have a stock F-body we can weigh. We weighed Eddie's car before the wheels and tires. I can assure you that all that other stuff doesn't add up to 200 lbs.

Kurt

[shorgasm]

Wanna weigh the Formula....hehehe.....although the wheels aren't stock..nor the tires....ZO6's and 285/30's

[4U 2 NV]

well on eddies T A im sure that 12 bolt is much heavier. well maybe 50 pounds? i dunno. well he is full of crap so that must weight something. just kidding eddie! :D

[Anonymous]

Eddie's TA was weighed with the after market wheels and tires before the 12 bolt.

[HORSEpower]

Wanna weigh the Formula....hehehe.....although the wheels aren't stock..nor the tires....ZO6's and 285/30's

Yeah, that will work, close enough.

Kurt

[toastychicken]

How does "Mike", the new guy, know when EDDIE's T/A was weighed?

[Ponyperformance6]

Wanna weigh the Formula....hehehe.....although the wheels aren't stock..nor the tires....ZO6's and 285/30's


Good lord ! Another F-Body with Z06 wheels ? Its turning into flowmasters and Cobra R's hehe :D

[Deebo]

How does "Mike", the new guy, know when EDDIE's T/A was weighed?

That reminds me... Mike.. i could have SWORN i saw your Driving a NBM T/A around town... :D...

Deebo

[shorgasm]

Who else here has them.......?

I got an idea I wanna run by ya....

[Anonymous]

I know coz I'm looking to buy Eddie's car :D
That bitch is so fast it hurt my feelings :drool:

[MustangCowboy93]

Why not drag test both bone stock on slicks.........500 Bucks says the SS blows it's rear end guts out all over the track while the Mach turns a high 12.

Will- the run you are reffering to earlier was with exhaust, a tall gear, and a taped up ram air scoop.

Insurance was a bitch for the Mach.....I looked into it and it was going to run nearly 1K every 6 mos. with a clean driving record. I am scared to know what a cobra would run.........sheesh!

-Eric

[Luke01GT]

AAAAAAAAAHAH :drevil: AHHA A LOL @ ERIC

[4U 2 NV]

high 12's on slicks? The camaro has already run BONE STOCK 12.96 @ 107 in the heat. with a 2.1 60ft. Lets just put DR's on it. Kiss that damn Mach 1 goodbye. :bowdown: SS

[Anonymous]

The SS has been tested with slicks and 150shot on stock motor and stock rearend.........no problems reported :D

[LSWon00]

Well he got finaced so it looks as though the Mach 1 maybe comming true and I by the way may be getting the GT (to much of your delight)

[Ed]

So how bad is Koch gonna get assraped by the loan company? :P

[LSWon00]

1.9 or 3.9 for 60 he said.

[Ed]

:eek: Really? That's not bad at all. Good for both of ya. :)

[Ponyperformance6]

Congrats to the both of you guys

[HORSEpower]

The SS has been tested with slicks and 150shot on stock motor and stock rearend.........no problems reported :D

It all depends on how you launch it. I imagine you could get away with it a few times.

Kurt

[LethalBird]

Its been done more than few time on the same rearend without problems reported.

[Luke01GT]

Nice signature there Eddie, think I'm a pussy? I'll be happy to knock out a few teeth to prove you wrong :angel: no hate brother, but you call me a pussy I'll kick your ass till your mother hurts.

[shorgasm]

Now Now boys...play nice before the board god's have to make kiss and make-up.

I'm sure Eddie wasn't callin you a pussy! But hey what do I know? :cheers:

[LethalBird]

:D

[Luke01GT]

Nah It's ok I am what I eat, that would make you a DICK Eddie ;) LOL , oh yea none of this is serious :D

[Ponyperformance6]

Hey Eddie, before you make fun of other people's cars, maybe you should figure out how to spell the name of your own.. Just a thought. :D

[LethalBird]

Will..........thats weak comeback :D

[shorgasm]

Umm...yes very weak! :blah: just like your ford!