KURT/EDDIE/NICK

[Luke01GT]

Hey guys I'm trying to put together what would intale putting Nitrous in the stang. I really don't know where to start other than a system. If you could give me some pointers on what to look for, what else other than the Nitrous I'll have to buy to upgrade the car to handle it all. Eddie please don't give me any smart ass comments. So make me smart gentlemen, what do I need to consider for Nitrous???

[Ponyperformance6]

Well I am neither one of the guys above, but if you would like to hear a little of my input as well here is some. :D I think a wet shot would be very safe of course due to the fact that fuel is being mixed in with the nitrous. However we have a returnless fuel system so some modifications must be done in order to handle that. Most major companies should have instructions for that. Also, I would think the safest accesorie would be a microswitch in order to spray when you go full throttle, or you could possibly do a button activated system as long as you have a window switch that would only allow you to spray when the car is between a certain RPM of your choosing. Anyways thats what i know so i hope that helps a little bit.
Will

[Stang8YourImport]

Ok, with your car and it's gay plastic intake... I would go with a dry shot. If you puddle with the nitrous/fuel mix, you'll blow your intake into 2390890328409328 pieces. Like I said tonight, Buy an NX or NOS kit... It will come with EVERYTHING you need to install nitrous on your car safely. Your car can hold a 125 shot, but anything higher and your hyperushitty pistons and weak linked piston wrist pins can break. Now with the 1500 dollar NOS Nozzle Kits, you wouldn't have a problem with them being wet because the mixture would have no were to puddle because it's being injected straight on top of the intake valve. As for modification for your returnless fuel system.. There is none. You just T off the pressure test shrader valve on the fuel rail put the fuel pressure saftey switch on one side, and line to the fuel solenoid on the other. It's pretty easy to install, and we could do it in one afternoon.

My two cents,
Nick

[Brazen6.0]

spray that scrap, spray it, SPRAY IT YEEAAAHHHH! :evil:

snif snif, I smell something, oh yes it's SPRAY


knock kncok....who's there?....it's spray...spray who?....spray yar moma


Why did the chicken cross the road? Cuz he was on Spray that's why!

[Luke01GT]

awesome gentlemen, now if I could only spray my bank account :D

[Ed]

I remember installing Misha's NOS kit on his Mustang. Oh man. The first time he tried it, we found out that one of his solenoids was broken (which was also our fault). One of the lines going to the motor completely froze over and stuck the throttle in part way. Looked pretty cool when we opened the hood, though. :)

Have fun with it, Luke.

[LethalBird]

Luke......I know some of the Mustang guys like Kurt and Nick are not gonna like my opinion but u asked for it and my true opinion u shall get.

The first thing I would do is not install the kit buy urself. I can understand if u wanna try and install any mechanical part by urslef, but I wouldn't do the NOS. The person that I always recommend for such a job is of course Mike from RM Automotive........the person that did 90% of the work on my car. He is reasonable and knows his stuff, however this is something totally up to u. I got his phone number if u wanna get in touch with him. Second, I would go with the NX wet kit adjustable from 50 to 150hp........stay away from dry kits specially NOS. I would start with the 75shot and no more than 100shot, unless u wanna have a piston salad. Since u have returnless fuel system u can't install a fuel pressure regulator coz its all controlled by the computer. However, I would buy a booster pump, prefrebly an external tank booster pump. There are many companies that makes them, so u just have to research which one works better with ur car. Now as far as what u need, u can spend $1500 on a complete kit or u can buy a basic kit for $500.....difference would be the accessories such as blow off safety switch, nitrous filter, bottle brackets, nitorus controller, etc. If u don't wanna hurt ur bank account here is what I would get as a start:

-Basic NX generation 2 wet kit $450-$500
-Booster pump $145 (recommended but u don't have to get it)
-3 switch pannel $50
-Blow off safety switch with bottle heater (not sure)
even the basic kits comes with everything u need to install it so u wont have to worry about it.

Oh I forgot.........u can also look on e-bay for some used kits and just buy the accessories.

Eddie

[Luke01GT]

Yea good ideas eddie thank you, I would never attempt to put nitrous in my car alone. That's definitely something I trust to very few people.

[Grannynational]

Rodney was spraying a dry 125 into his car and it was hauling ass. buy a used nitrous kit from ebay. Wet kits are a pain in the ass to install. just retard the timing a bit and crank the fuel pressure.

Joe

[sweet69]

Nick, with a returnless fuel system you can't go dry, he has to go wet. Just get a basic wet kit used on ebay. Go NOS or NX, don't mess around with a cheaper kit. The only wear items on a nitrous kit are the solenoids. If you get a used kit and a solenoid goes, a new one cost about $80. They are rebuildable with a kit that costs $32, but I have had bad luck rebuilding them, so if one goes I would recommend replacing it.

For specifics on what you would need go to stangnet or corral and ask in one of their stang techs. You may need a new fuel pump, but I am not sure.

If you're plastic intake breaks, you can always upgrade to a metal bullit intake. I don't know what they cost, but it can't be too bad. I know that it is a dramatic power increase.

Nitrous kits are ridiculously simple to install. You will probably understand how to do it just by looking at it. There is really no way to fuck up the installation, unless your name is Rodney, and a $3 fuse is out of your price range, so you set a solenoid on fire. Never pay someone else to do it. Although installing nitrous is easy, it is time consuming, because you have to run lines, wires, mount the bottle and shit like that. Performance mechanics are paid by the job, not by the hour, so it is almost assured that they are going to take shortcuts to save time.

One safety recommendation I have that may not be included in the kit: ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS run 2 solenoids on the nitrous side. If you let off the spray and the nitrous solenoid jams open, but the fuel solenoid closes, gave over, new motor time. And believe me, solenoids do jam open. Luckily for me, it has always been my purge solenoid.

Good Luck,

Kurt

[LethalBird]

Solenoids jam open only exists witht the NOS kit

[sweet69]

Solenoids jam open only exists witht the NOS kit

OK, whatever. All those solenoids are probably made by the same company.

Kurt

[MustangCowboy93]

Luke,

My friend Paul put a nx kit on his 2000gt. He did not use another fuel pump. He did, however, use a wet kit (jet mixes N2O and fuel in front of the T-body). There is also something to think about.........tuning. Your car will run slower with the cold plugs in it on just motor, but will really be wicked when you hit the spray. On nitrous he has gone 13.01 with street tires and a 90 shot. Installation is very strait foward, but I have no idea how to wire- Kurt could tell you more about that than I.

I'll try and get some more info for you about Pauls car and experiences with N20 on the 4.6.

-Eric

[LethalBird]

NOS solenoids are mad by NOS and NX solenoids are made by NX.
TNT solenoids are made by NX.

[sweet69]

Luke,

My friend Paul put a nx kit on his 2000gt. He did not use another fuel pump. He did, however, use a wet kit (jet mixes N2O and fuel in front of the T-body). There is also something to think about.........tuning. Your car will run slower with the cold plugs in it on just motor, but will really be wicked when you hit the spray. On nitrous he has gone 13.01 with street tires and a 90 shot. Installation is very strait foward, but I have no idea how to wire- Kurt could tell you more about that than I.

I'll try and get some more info for you about Pauls car and experiences with N20 on the 4.6.

-Eric

This is the kind of setup that is going to be most practical. Eric's friend is going to be able to give you the best idea on what you need. With a stock motor you probably won't need anything.

Eddie, NOS has very high quality solenoids. They have been doing it for more than twice as long as NX, so I think they would know how to build a solenoid. And to say that one solenoid isn't going to jam but the other will is just ignorant. You go ahead and trust that one solenoid. If you trust your motor to one solenoid go ahead. My NOS kit is 15 years old, and still works flawlessly.

Kurt

[Deebo]

I know a guy who can get you a new NX kit for 460 out the door.

Deebo

[LethalBird]

Soundcrafters carry at least one kit in stock all the time and the price is what Deebo mentioned.

Eddie

[Luke01GT]

Eric can you ask your friend how much that kit cost him??

[Ponyperformance6]

Luke you are very Brave.... I was just thinking that i needed spray too.... but i could never be on the bottle, because it is very addicting stuff and i would spray the piss out if it.... however it would be so much fun.... :chin:

[MustangCowboy93]

Yea Luke, I'll get that info for you. I think he picked his up as a show special at OSW Fun Ford Weekend. He is very happy with his setup.

Luke, if you have a florida phone number, I'll get paul to get in touch with you about his experiences with the spray. I'll have him give you a call.

-Eric

[Luke01GT]

Thank you Eric, my number here at my house is 386 304 9024. I'd appreciate any info he's got. Thank you.

[LSWon00]

Builitt intakes Cost $900. So don't blow yours.

[HORSEpower]

I talked to the NX guy at a Mustang show a couple years ago. All of his shit has a lifetime guarantee. If you pick up a used NX solenoid at a show, he said you can walk it over to him, tell him it's broken, and get a new one for free.

Kurt

[MustangCowboy93]

Yea, my friend Chad put one on his 92 LX coupe and turned a 7.70 on drag radials. The motors stock less a B- cam. That kit has stood up to some mega abuse, so I'd say it's a heck of a buy. Wait and pick up a kit at the show, Luke.

-Eric

[HORSEpower]

How much is Chad spraying?

Kurt

[MustangCowboy93]

He's spraying a 150 shot- he's actually TRYING to blow his up, but it isn't working so far. That engine won't die. It's a stock shortblock that's been rehoned and put back togeather with Advance rings and bearings.

-Eric